In this remarkable, 61-minute video, Pastor Chuck Baldwin is interviewed by Steven Ben-Nun of Israeli News Live about his journey out of a deep-seated and three-decades-long belief that the modern state of Israel is the fulfillment of biblical prophecy. What’s remarkable about this interview is that Steven Ben-Nun is a Messianic (Jewish) Christian who had been under the influence of Zionism, himself. The large majority of Messianic Christians are fervent Christian Zionists. We Hold These Truths has, also, interviewed Pastor Baldwin in our podcast, “Pastor Dr. Chuck Baldwin Rejects Christian Zionism.”